Programming languages do not influence thinking?

(written by lawrence krubner, however indented passages are often quotes). You can contact lawrence at:

I find this amazing:

Perhaps PHP’s idioms and influences of style can account for an application’s charmlessness? Well, such idiomatic arguments are dangerously close to aesthetic ones; besides, I have little truck with even weak versions of Whorfianism, especially when it comes to a deliberate intellectual exercise like programming.

Wow. I truly have trouble imagining how someone can possibly believe what is said in these sentences. When it comes to human spoken languages, we could debate Whorfianism, but in programming languages? How can anyone seriously think that a PHP programmer thinks about problems the same a Clojure programmer does?